When faced with criticism, you can either appease people or you can stonewall them. If you don’t think you did anything wrong, stick to your guns. “I don’t think it was racist” is perfectly fine. “We didn’t mean it, but also people say we’re mad sexist, too, isn’t that weird?” isn’t.
There is a reason behind it all. We don’t see it that way and strive very hard to have a diverse DCU. I mean, we have green, pink, and blue characters. We have the Great Ten out there and I have counter statistics, but I won’t get into that.
The problem with this statement is that green, pink, and blue people don’t exist. In fact, comparing actual, real-life people to fake people when discussing real-life issues is a pretty screwed up thing to do, isn’t it? It’s saying, “Yes, I understand your complaints, but look over here! This thing that we made up is just like what you want, just a different shade! That’s the same thing, right?”
No, it really isn’t. The point of diversity is to reflect reality. If you’re bringing up imaginary people when talking about actual people… you probably should just stop talking. A real life example: you’re making a cartoon for kids. Your boss asks why there aren’t any kids in your show. You respond that there are several kids, like this dwarf, this baby dragon, this baby goblin, those are like kids, right? No.
If you have counter statistics… bring them out. Setting aside the fact that this isn’t about statistics at all (Who wants ##% of characters to fulfill some role? Straw men? Idiots? Let’s go with idiots.), show me what you’ve got. Here, I got a head start on them for you! I did a rough count and came up with 73 DCU covers in their August 2010 solicitations. I didn’t count CMX, Wildstorm, or Vertigo, so these are strictly books with characters owned by DC. There is one Brazilian woman, one Asian woman crying in a cemetery (and perhaps another in Birds of Prey, but I can’t tell through the mask), and five black people. Except, two of the black men are unnamed criminal henchmen, one is Azrael, one is Static, and the other is Bumblebee on Tiny Titans. I didn’t count the covers Damian appeared in, but probably should have, as he is at the very least part Arab and part Chinese. In contrast, there are eight alien characters who have recurring roles and seven blonde teenage girls.
So, please. Tell me about how you “strive very hard to have a diverse DCU.” There’s an equal number of talking monkeys and black women on your covers. Scooby Doo is on more covers than that.
I'm fairly certain Marvel Studios owns the movie rights to Hulk; Universal only owned distribution rights to the one film. They may have more movie distribution deals with Marvel Studios proper, but I don't think that's limited to characters (and if it was, that's some bad lawyering).
*whew* I hope you’re right! I know that Hulk’s time at Universal goes back to the late 70’s, but like you said it may be in distribution only.
Still, many more confined rights like Fantastic Four, Daredevil and X-Men to FOX, Spider-Man to Sony, still remain, and won’t change for a very, very, long time.
And then there is Disney… but that’s a tale which really has yet to be told!
In reference to a question you answered earlier; surely Tony Stark showing up at the end of the last Hulk movie and the fact that Captain America frozen in the snow was visible (albeit only just) in a deleted scene is a pretty big confirmation that the big green guy is going to be showing up in The Avengers movie?
Lots of major factors bigger than what we think are at play here: what if Ed Norton doesn’t want to do it? What if Universal, who hold the film rights for the Hulk don’t want to let Paramount use him? What if the film’s plot is so packed there just isn’t any room for the green giant?
There is a very good chance we won’t see Hulk in The Avengers feature film. Damn.
Whats your opinion on people that just like comics because they look cool? Buy random issues of random comics that started at #16 and thats the only one they ever read of that and then they say its their favorite comic? Or people that just reblog random batman comic strips because it looks cool. Never read the comic from that comic. Maybe have read other batman comics though. What do you think about people like that?
To each their own, I guess. I don’t really mind it.
If you think the splash page of Bane breaking Batman’s back, an image that was completely unknown to you, is awesome, then reblog it. Talk about it. Question it. Share it with the world.
I just hope that the person will be intrigued enough to want more.
When I started reading comics, there was no internet for me to do this…
I dig Kate, but it took awhile. I didn’t like her in 52. But her run in Detective Comics was excellent, but the overall story? Not so much (yes, the art was gorgeous but writing wasn’t —you could have done better Rucka!).
Still, with a Batgirl and Huntress around, there is room for a Batwoman in the DCU, and I like it!
How many comic books would you say that you own, and do you download any?
Not sure of the exact number, but here’s what I know I gots:
Complete runs of Superman titles, Batman titles, Justice League titles, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Teen Titans, a fuck-load more, to just name a very few. These include spin-offs, one-shots, mini/maxi-series, Elseworlds, all that jazz since 1985. Ultimately, every comic DC has published with these characters since I was born, I own. Oh, and thousands more of what I consider ‘pre-Crisis’ comics…
I have no idea how much Marvel I own. It is massive, tho: sixteen longboxes worth, as of 2006. ‘nuff said.
I have downloaded comics before, but I didn’t like it. I really don’t like reading comics with my computer.
What are your thoughts on Megan Fox? I heard she wants to play and will be in a lot more movies based off of comic books. I'm really scared.
Nah, that’s just some PR fluff to get fanboy’s hard. It’s funny, but I’ve been told that her beau David Silver does read comics! I’ve also been told that she’s a pain in the ass on set. Shh! Don’t tell anyone about that last one…
Hey I'm considering purchasing a subscription from Marvel to start reading some comics. Any suggestions? I'm leaning towards Spider man or Captain America who are two of my favorite Marvel super heroes.
Recently, I’ve found the Captain America comics written primary by Ed Brubaker to be superior in storytelling than Spider-Man. I also think there are more ‘memorable’ Spidey stories than there are of Cap, so IMO go with the All-American American!
Any idea when a new incredible hulk movie might come out? Im dying for a new oneeeeeee
I really enjoyed the latest Hulk film; Ed Norton was pure gold and brought new emotion in Banner which Eric Bana couldn’t in Ang Lee’s previous take.
That said, I’m not sure if the character rights are still fully with Universal Studios —who have no plans for another Hulk movie, or with Marvel Studios and Paramount Pictures —who could use the big Green lug for The Avengers feature film. Time will tell…